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Too many NP's in Quebec

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Too many NP's in Quebec

Hi,

We're planning a 3 week visit to east & central canada incl NY with family. (June or July) We would like the trip to be a good mix between cities and nature. Highlights (what our family would absolutely love to see) are Niagara Falls & NY. I absolutely love wildlife so I was hoping to see some bears and moose as well. Therefor I included different National Parks in Quebec. I must say there're a lot and I don't know if it's better to try to do as many as possible or better to do a few and do some longer stays.

Based on information I found across the internet I made the following trip but I'm short in (each line is 1 day):

Montreal (flying in)

Montreal

Mont Laurier

Mont Laurier

Parc National De La Maurice

Parc National De La Maurice

Parc National De La Jacques Cartier

Parc National De La Jacques Cartier

St Felicien

St Felicien

Sainte Rose Du Nord

Tadoussac

Tadoussac

Quebec City

Quebec City

Ottowa

Algonquin NP

Algonquin NP

Niagara on the lake

New York

New York

New York (departure in the evening)

I think we need 1 day more in NY and 1 day more in Niagara.

Like I said I was hoping to get some tips about the trip I planned (we will be hiring a rental car) and I was wondering if it would be better to spend more time in 1 park (but in that case which one).

Tx for some advice.

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1. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

Hi Country_hopper

I would take Mont-Laurier off, keep Jacques-Cartier and Algonquin, and since you are going to Tadoussac (where incidentally there are several short hikes in the Saguenay National Park www.sepaq.com/pq/sag/index.dot?language_id=1 as well ... just playing the devil here :D), spend 2 days exploring the spectacular Parc National des Hautes-Gorges which is on your way between Tadoussac and Québec City, in the montainous Charlevoix county. Some scenery in that county rivals with Scottish Highlands, to give you an idea how far from the flat Belgium you are used to...

http://www.sepaq.com/pq/hgo/

www.pbase.com/zobroc/parc_hautes_gorges

As an aside, if you ever miss some of your exquisite beers while in the area, I highly recommend that you stop at the excellent microbrewery/pub/restaurant in the quaint small town of Baie-St-Paul, between the said park and Québec City. Good regional food and very good beers to be enjoyed there.

Regards

Eirelover

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2. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

I don't really know what you need to see in Mont-Laurier but it is a long drive from Mtl, part of it on two lane road and road construction near Labelle. I would go closer to Mtl, in Mont-Tremblant National Park. Then you wil have a much shorter drive to Parc National de la Mauricie too. Skip Parc de la Jacques-Cartier and drive directly from Mauricie to Lac Saint-Jean (Saint-Félicien)

Then you will have enough time to add in your ittinerary, including a night or two in the Charlevoix area and visit Parc des Haute-Gorges de la Rivière Malbaie or Parc des Grands Jardins.

As per Quebec City, as you are from Europe, it will have less appeal than for North-Americans so I would get more time in Montreal and Ottawa. By the way I had Belgian friends visiting a few years ago and they loved Ottawa more than Qc.

Oh and I would not count on driving all the way from Niagara Falls to NYC in a Canadian car rental, the drop off fees will be enourmous. You will even have drop off fees between Montreal and Toronto in most car rental agencies but if you shop you will find some that won't charge between Mtl and TO. So then I would get lodging in Toronto and do a day tour to Niagara Falls and then fly from from TO to NYC. One day is enough with NF and N-on-the-L. You can check Porter airlines that has often good deals and in Toronto it flies from the Ilslands Airport (Billy Bishop) instead of Pearson, so much closer to TO downtown.

Edited: 06 January 2012, 14:44
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3. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

rick, I suggested keeping Jacques-Cartier as the OP mentioned willing to see wildlife. I may be wrong, but in my humble opinion, there is more to see and activities to do there than there is in Mont-Tremblant.

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4. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

I see no problems with that Eirelover it's just a question of comodity to drive from the Laurentians to Lac Saint-Jean but you certainly know the parks first hand more than I do.

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5. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

I am European and just wanted to say that I think Quebec City is a must see - a beautiful city and very Quebecoise. I know nothing about wildlife but have a look at the SEPAQ web site - they are in charge of most parks in Quebec and you would find great ideas about places to stay in the parks. BTW Niagara Falls is breathtaking but a day is really enough especiall if you are also visiting NYC.

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6. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

Oh I forgot, during your drive from Ottawa to Montreal or Tremblant make a stop in Montebello to see the wild life at Parc Omega. Close encounter of the third kind all the way!

There are some unique activities in Mont-Tremblant like the Via Ferrata, the the zip lines / accrobranche, the gondola to the summit and then good hiking down the slopes, the luge, etc.. Even a casino. I know that most of these activities are located in or close to the fake disneyfied Village but for people who don't ant to do trekking or canoeing all the time but still have nature related activities that is great. And for lazy canoe paddlers like me the canoe expedition on the RougeRiver is pretty unique with this calm water and sand bars and beaches all along. Oh and downstream, in fact not so far from Montebello, there is some of the best river rafting in Eastern North-America.

And I don't say that you should'nt go to Québec City but it is a question that it has much less history than most of places in Europe and wandering around to discover hidden places in the old city is something that can also be done almost everywhere in Europe. So in summer I suggest a good 3 or 4 days for North-Americans but you can shave that by half for Europeans and you willl still get a rewarding visit.

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7. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

Allô,

J'habite dans la ville de Québec. Avez-vous pensé venir pour les fêtes de la St-Jean (fête nationale des Québécois) spectacle sur les Plaines d'Abraham et animation dans les paroisses, etc. Feu de la St-jean (24 juin). Ou fête du Canada le 1er juillet. Feu d'artifice, spectacle plus important à Ottawa mais partout il y a des feux d'artifice plus ou moins gros mais il y a toujours un air de fête. À Québec, en général on est très accueillant. Pour les parc nationaux, attention soyez prêts à affronter les mouches noires, un bon insecticide est nécessaire. Les orignaux ne sont pas facile à voir mais le parc de St-Félicien est sûrement très bien. Aussi voir un ours dans une trail c'est pas évident surtout si c'est une mère avec ses oursons. Selon moi vous allez manquer de temps pour tout voir les distances sont longues. Je suis d'accord pour les Hautes-Gorges et Baie St-Paul. À Tadoussac, vous pouvez voir les bélugas mais pas les autres baleines. On les voit plus en août. Bonnes vacances.

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8. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

Hi Country-Hopper99,

Welcome to the QUEBEC (La-Belle-Province) TRAVEL FORUM

And I see that you are fairly NEW to the various CANADA FORUMS… so a BIG Welcome Aboard as well !!

I am not sure how much you know about Canada going into this, or how much research you’ve done to date, but planning out visits that includes seeing some of our majestic beauty the following info might serve you well.

Wikipedia – National Parks of Canada = …wikipedia.org/wiki/National_parks_of_Canada

I suggest that you begin your research with the Parks Canada Website = http://www.pc.gc.ca/progs/pn-np/index.aspx

Canada has 42 National Parks found thru-out our 10 Provinces and 3 Territories … and 3 of them are in the Province of Quebec, along with one National Marine Conservation Area. They are…

* Forillion National Park of Canada – The “Jewel of the Gaspe” where land meets sea

Wikipedia – Forillion National Park = en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forillon_National_Park

www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/qc/forillon/index.aspx

* La Maurice National Park of Canada – Lakes winding thru forested hills for Canoe & Portage activities

Wikipedia – La Maurice National Park = …wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mauricie_National_Park

www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/qc/mauricie/index.aspx

* Mingan Archipelago National Park Reserve of Canada – A string of islands carved out by the sea

Wikipedia – Mingan Archipelago National Park = …wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingan_Archipelago_Natio…

www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/qc/mingan/index.aspx

and…

* The Saguenay-St Lawrence Marine Park – Where the mighty river meets the ecologically unique Saguenay Fjord

Wikpedia – Saguenay-St Lawrence Marine Park = …wikipedia.org/wiki/Saguenay%E2%80%93St._Law…

www.pc.gc.ca/amnc-nmca/qc/saguenay/index.aspx

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Where things get a tad confusing, is that the first language in the Province of Quebec is French… and they have no direct translation for Provincial Parks (which are considered to be lesser parks within our country… but still important enough to be deemed preserved parkland). In the Province of Quebec, these Parks are termed as Quebec National Parks (Parcs National). There are 22 such parks in the Province of Quebec, and are managed by Parcs Quebec (SEPAQ – Societe des etablissements de plein air du Quebec)

SEPAQ = www.sepaq.com/pq/index.dot?language_id=1

All the parks within Quebec are worth a visit… BUT if you are truly wanting to see the best of the best (and are in the right locations to do so) you will want to concentrate on the more noteworthy 4 Canada National Parklands.

Hope this is helpful,

Cheers!

Wine-4-2

PS… As for Algonquin... it is Ontario’s Premier Provincial Park… and the oldest Preserved Parkland in Canada... it would have been (currently be) a National Park, BUT it was the first landmass within Canada designated as a Preserved Area, and that came about PRIOR to the Act of Parliament that created our National Parks System in 1930 (The Province of Ontario having made the designation for Algonquin back in 1893)

Wikipedia – Algonquin Park = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algonquin_park

Ontario Parks = www.ontarioparks.com

Algonquin Park = http://www.ontarioparks.com/english/algo.html

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9. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

Bonjour Moufette_de_Quebec;

Je vois que vous êtes un nouveau membre sur ce site alors je vous souhaite la bienvenue. Vous l'apprecierez j'en suis sur.

Mais il faut aussi vous dire que vous avez utilisé le mauvais forum pour poser des questions en français. En effet les versions de Trip Advisor avec les suffixes .com , .ca , co.uk sont réservés aux questions en anglais. Pour la version française vous devez utiliser le suffixe .fr . Ou encore repérerer le petit drapeau à l'extrème droite et haut de cette page, cliquez sur celui qui apparait et vous aurez d'autres suggestions, cliquez alors sur le Tricolore français. pour vous retrouver dans les pages en cette langue.

Si vous lisez et écrivez un peu l'anglais vous pouvez aussi reposer votre question sur cette présente page dans cette lange car d'impotants contributeurs et "destination experts", comme moi, parlent peu ou pas le français.

Finalement je vous réfères à la boîte "Top Questions" sur la page anglaise de la Province de Québec, vous y trouverez une question spécialement pour les nouveaux membres qui vous expliquera, entre autres, comment enlever ce fil que vous utilisez présentement.

Encore une fois beinvenue et bonne chance sur Trip Advisor

RescueTeam

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Advised Moufette_de_Quebec that this is an English only forum.

Best Regards

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10. Re: Too many NP's in Quebec

Thanks for all your feedback. Based on your feedback I updated my trip as follows:

Montreal

Montreal

Parc National De La Maurice

Parc National De La Maurice

Parc National De La Jacques Cartier

Parc National De La Jacques Cartier

St Felicien

St Felicien

Tadoussac

Tadoussac

Tadoussac

Quebec City

Quebec City

Ottowa

Ottowa

Algonquin NP

Algonquin NP

Niagara on the lake

New York

New York

Leaving New York

I have one spare day that I want to add to:

Algonquin, NP De La Mauricie or NP Jacques Cartier.

What do you think is the best option if you know I prefer to see wildlife.

Tx!